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建议你找个tax expert, 税这么复杂的东西谁在网上说一句,最后被审计都是自己承担责任,我学过也不敢发言,况且而且很多时候是case per case的,我给你转了个HELOC可以的例子,不过你的状况可能又有差异

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛http://www.nationalpost.com/related/topics/expert+Mortgage+HELOC+interest+could+deductible/4145039/story.html

Jamie Golombek, Financial Post · Jan. 21, 2011 | Last Updated: Jan. 21, 2011 1:02 PM ET

Monday’s announcement by Finance Minister Jim Flaherty that, come April, the government will stop offering mortgage insurance on home equity lines of credit (HELOC) has exposed what many in the industry have known for years – that HELOCs were seldom used to finance the equity in your home but rather to fund a variety of other things, including “boats and cars and big-screen TVs.”

Tax planners are often besieged with questions from clients who have taken out a HELOC or a mortgage and are wondering whether, given their own set of circumstances, some or all of their interest expense is tax deducible.

The ability to write off interest paid on a loan has its origins in the Income Tax Act which states that if funds are borrowed for the purpose of earning business or investment income, the interest paid on such funds is tax deductible.

Last year, the Canada Revenue Agency was asked to comment about a specific restructuring arrangement and whether interest could be tax deductible.

In the case posed to CRA, the taxpayer, who we’ll refer to as Joey, wants to buy a new home and rent out his current home, valued at $700,000, which is fully paid off and thus is unencumbered by a mortgage.

If he simply goes to his lender to secure financing on his new home, the interest on his new mortgage won’t be tax deductible since he is not borrowing for the purpose of earning income but rather is borrowing to purchase his new principal residence – a personal property.

Instead, Joey, with the advice of his astute tax advisor, decides to sell his principal residence to his parents for the fair market value of $700,000. His parents, not having the $700,000 cash lying around to cover this purchase, pay him by way of a promissory note.

Joey then obtains a mortgage or HELOC and uses the proceeds from this loan to buy back the house from his parents, to use as a rental property. His parents use the proceeds of the loan to pay off the promissory note. Joey, now flush with cash, uses the re-acquired property for rental purposes and purchases his new principal residence with the cash.

The reason for these complex maneuverings is to ensure that Joey meets the “direct use test” as outlined in the CRA’s Interpretation Bulletin on interest deductibility which states that in determining what borrowed money has been used for, the onus is on the taxpayer “to trace or link the borrowed money to a specific eligible use, giving effect to the existing legal relationships.” The Bulletin goes on to say that “a taxpayer may restructure borrowings and the ownership of assets to meet the direct use test.”

As a result, the CRA blessed Joey’s proposed transactions and said that the mortgage or HELOC interest would indeed be tax deductible.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下家园 / 钱财税务 / 请教:现有的自住房去申请Home Equity Loan,用于购买新的自住房,现有的自住房变成投资房用于出租,请问Home Equity Loan的利息可以抵扣出租收入吗?
    • 不可以。
      • 谢谢! 地产经纪怎么说可以呢?也有朋友说refinance就可以,有没有高手能解释得更详细一点呢?
        • Refinance looks better for audit are most most of the time it is ok. HELOC it is not.
        • a good tax expert or a real estate lawyer will give a good answer, but not everyone can give you the right answer. I had done a lot of research, including calling CRA and searching on government website.
          本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/tpcs/ncm-tx/rtrn/cmpltng/ddctns/lns206-236/221/menu-eng.html

          * most interest you pay on money you borrow for investment purposes, but generally only as long as you use it to try to earn investment income, including interest and dividends. However, if the only earnings your investment can produce are capital gains, you cannot claim the interest you paid.

          http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tp/it533/it533-e.html

          the basic point is: "borrowed money used for the purpose of earning income from a business or property. "

          The borrowed money from your current property (future rental property) used to buy a new principle residence, the use of money does not generate income from your principal residence, thus the interest from borrowed money does not qualify for tax deductible.

          You can refinance your principal residence and use all the borrowed money to buy a rental property, then the interest on borrowed money are 100% tax deductible as the use of money is to generate rental income.

          you can find more readings from CRA website:更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 建议你找个tax expert, 税这么复杂的东西谁在网上说一句,最后被审计都是自己承担责任,我学过也不敢发言,况且而且很多时候是case per case的,我给你转了个HELOC可以的例子,不过你的状况可能又有差异
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛http://www.nationalpost.com/related/topics/expert+Mortgage+HELOC+interest+could+deductible/4145039/story.html

      Jamie Golombek, Financial Post · Jan. 21, 2011 | Last Updated: Jan. 21, 2011 1:02 PM ET

      Monday’s announcement by Finance Minister Jim Flaherty that, come April, the government will stop offering mortgage insurance on home equity lines of credit (HELOC) has exposed what many in the industry have known for years – that HELOCs were seldom used to finance the equity in your home but rather to fund a variety of other things, including “boats and cars and big-screen TVs.”

      Tax planners are often besieged with questions from clients who have taken out a HELOC or a mortgage and are wondering whether, given their own set of circumstances, some or all of their interest expense is tax deducible.

      The ability to write off interest paid on a loan has its origins in the Income Tax Act which states that if funds are borrowed for the purpose of earning business or investment income, the interest paid on such funds is tax deductible.

      Last year, the Canada Revenue Agency was asked to comment about a specific restructuring arrangement and whether interest could be tax deductible.

      In the case posed to CRA, the taxpayer, who we’ll refer to as Joey, wants to buy a new home and rent out his current home, valued at $700,000, which is fully paid off and thus is unencumbered by a mortgage.

      If he simply goes to his lender to secure financing on his new home, the interest on his new mortgage won’t be tax deductible since he is not borrowing for the purpose of earning income but rather is borrowing to purchase his new principal residence – a personal property.

      Instead, Joey, with the advice of his astute tax advisor, decides to sell his principal residence to his parents for the fair market value of $700,000. His parents, not having the $700,000 cash lying around to cover this purchase, pay him by way of a promissory note.

      Joey then obtains a mortgage or HELOC and uses the proceeds from this loan to buy back the house from his parents, to use as a rental property. His parents use the proceeds of the loan to pay off the promissory note. Joey, now flush with cash, uses the re-acquired property for rental purposes and purchases his new principal residence with the cash.

      The reason for these complex maneuverings is to ensure that Joey meets the “direct use test” as outlined in the CRA’s Interpretation Bulletin on interest deductibility which states that in determining what borrowed money has been used for, the onus is on the taxpayer “to trace or link the borrowed money to a specific eligible use, giving effect to the existing legal relationships.” The Bulletin goes on to say that “a taxpayer may restructure borrowings and the ownership of assets to meet the direct use test.”

      As a result, the CRA blessed Joey’s proposed transactions and said that the mortgage or HELOC interest would indeed be tax deductible.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • Agreed, in order to qualify for tax deductible, you need to go through a "Sell and buy back" Technic.
        • 好复杂,例子看得我有点晕,房子卖给父母再买回来作投资房产,中间不涉及到土地转让税吗?转来转去,光土地这快就得损失好几万...这方法挺好操作起来有点困难,成本貌似也太高:)谢谢高手!
    • 可以,税局需要你能提供证明,房子的租金收入可以用所产生的费用抵消。。要报租金收入,然后才可以报利息费用
      • 谢谢!抵押出来购买投资房,利息应该是可以抵扣出租收入的; 但用于购买自住房,利息还能能抵扣抵押房产生的出租收入,我的困惑就在这里。
      • “Home Equity Loan,” 的利息是用于购买 “新的自住房B”,难道可以抵消原有房(现出租房,设为A)的收入?那这个A房假如还有Mortgage,岂不是两个不同房的利息都可以用于抵消A房的租金收入?假如B房也有租金收入呢?利息如何抵消?各抵各还是任你自己自由分配数额?
    • 不可以, 因为贷款是用来购买自住房,所以利息不能抵扣收入。解决方法也有但有一定条件。
      方法1. 如果你有同等金额的投资,比如说股票。
      1. 卖掉股票,然后用得到的钱做新的自住房首付
      2。 旧房HELOC,然后把股票买回来
      这样操作利息是可以抵扣的。

      另外一个方法(想法,未验证),夫妻一方贷款or HELOC 向另一方把原自住房买下变成投资房。利息可抵扣。另一方用卖房的钱去买新的自住房。
    • 谢谢大家参与讨论,银行给的答案是如果secured 的Home Line of credit(就是说用房子本身的Equity拿钱出来)利息就可以抵税,我对这种说法也将信将疑,银行所多数客户都这样,我想最后还是看CRA的judgement吧。